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New Wave of British Invasion?
I remember being told at the time (circa 1982) the New Wave refered to the 'next wave of the British Invasion'. Of course many bands that came to be known as New Wave were American, and some were from other places. Anyone else heard of this explanation? user:ike9898
I've always defined new wave as having as having a modern type sound- the Cars, the Fixx, Joy division Devo ect. A lot of the bands listed on the page I don't consider new wave like INXS, Cindy Lauper among others. CLAT1@aol.com
- Thomson Twins
- Devo
- Flock of Seagulls
- Haircut 100
- ....
Absolutely no-one in Britain at the time or now would call the Thompson Twins, Haircut 100 or Flock of Seagulls 'new wave'. That term had ceased to be used in the UK by 1980. Haircut 100 were classed as 'New Pop', the Thompson Twins as 'pop' and the Seagulls as 'synthpop'Vauxhall1964 (talk) 04:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Hall & Oates
Hall & Oates?!? Really? ike9898 15:30, May 19, 2004 (UTC)
Mike Oldfield
Mike Oldfield? Really? In my opinion Oldfield tried to make "modern" music, and he still tries (Ibiza Trance). But he is not really a typical New Wave artist. By asking the oracle of google, I got two Interviews in german, in which he expresses his diregard to New Wave and also Punk. Maybe his attidute changed around 1983-84, but Oldfield ist acutally a progressive or artrock musician. Rabauz 13:32, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Removal
I removed this becaue the rest of the article already covers the most important part (i.e. that New Wave is vague) but in a more cohesive and informative manner. No Wave, New Romantic and synth pop should all be described and incorporated into the text. Tuf-Kat 22:27, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
I removed: Beginning in the early 1990s, New Wave music in the U.S. came to be commonly referred to as Retro music.
That's a very broad statement that I don't think is true nor will stand the test of time.
New Wave's 4th incarnation
The article is completely off base in saying New Wave ended in 1992. Since the late 90’s due to the dour nature of alternative rock and gansta rap and the dour post 9/11 era there has been a nostalgic look back at New Wave. The era with its poppy sound and funky hair and clothes look like innocent fun today. Go listen to internet radio,satellite radio or 80’s lunch hour and New Wave dominates despite the fact the heavy metal and rap were just as popular in the 1980’s. This nostalgia has led to the 4th incarnation of New Wave music. I agree basically with the article up to 1992. New Wave’s first incarnation 1976-1978 was as a marketing ploy for punk. People forget or are to young to remember how deep the resistance was to the music in the U.S. The Sid and Nancy fiasco turned off the public and maybe even more importantly a drunken Elvis Costello calling Ray Charles a “blind ignorant nigger“ during and argument with Bonnie Bramlett made the U.S. rock world very hostile to the music. The second incarnation (1978-1981?) and third incarnations (1981-1988?) are explained well enough above. I would add the influence of MTV for third incarnation. The 4th incarnation I would say began in 2001 with the so called “the bands” witch mined to varied degrees 2nd second incarnation New Wave and electro clash and underground dance music movement influenced by 1980’s techno pop. The last 2 years have seen success of such bands such as The Killers,Modest Mouse,The Bravery etc which mine heavily 2nd incarnation New Wave. These bands are having even more commercial success then their 1980’s counterparts consistently at the top of both the singles and Album charts. These groups have been referred as "New New Wave" and increasingly just "New Wave". which is really what they are. Somewhat to my regret I have concluded that New Wave music may not solely be associated with the late 1970’s thru 1980’s of my young adulthood. EK June 26th 2005
Thanks for using this theme for the last line of the New Wave article and if this was the inspiration for the post punk revival article you really did a good job building a house out of my foundation EK October 11th 2005
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== Growing up during the early 80's == My interpretation of New Wave as a genre involved a particular use of the synthesizer as an instrument, but not the main instrument. Bands such as Eddie Grant, Sly Fox, Depeche Mode, Kim Wilde, Devo, and Tears for Fears mostly represented the New Wave sound whereas Yaz was the quintessential Techo sound. In the mid 80's, most New Wave bands simply moved away from the quintessential New Wave sound. Bands such as Talking Heads, Thompson Twins, The Pet Shop Boys, and Kim Wilde simply fell out of the limelight, while bands such as The Cars, and Duran Duran moved away from the New Wave sound and into more of a pop sound. Depeche Mode made a conscious decision to concentrate on House music. Starting in the mid 80's the discotech was making a comeback - especially in Europe. During the late 80's and well into the 90's there was something of an underground movement that was simply called "New Music" that kept the genre alive until it's minor resurgence in the early 2000's. "Sex" by Berlin is an example of the later style New Music sound to hit the charts from the underground scene. I did notice that many of the most successful New Wave bands of the early 80's ended up living and performing in Europe long after they were forgotten by Americans.
Actually, you're quite right, I ran out of time and had to leave before I could complete it. But saved what I wrote for later edit as I expected to change computers. I did not expect anyone to respond so quickly. My error. Since your contribution, I'll forgo editing and start anew to prevent confusion. You hit upon my major editing intent - to talk a bit about the blurred lines between categories. For instance, late Berlin is as easily categorized as House as New Music. In the case of Depeche Mode, they actually announced their intent to head into the club scene - thus we know it was a conscious decision. But as for the others such as The Cars, they simply progressed into a more mainstream sound over time. We actually agree on the major points you made. I also see your point about the New Romantics subgenre. That it lists nearly everything I mentioned is not lost upon me. The list given is quite across the board when it comes to the sound, though. Many bands did not use synthesizers but still had a peculiar sound that was clearly New Wave. Plus, Prince could be considered New Romantic in the way he dressed and perhaps in the way he acted. But many would classify his music as Alternative, rather than New Wave.
However, in my mind, there was more or less a definition of the genre that one could use at that particular time. For instance, in 1981 through 1983 the popular band Duran Duran was clearly New Wave. But I considered Sly Fox and Haircut 100 as also New Wave even though they were completely different. This despite the fact that I was not cognizent of what was on the producers minds at the time - we had no real internet with which to easily look up such things. The fact that the producers and I both agree on what was clearly the New Wave sound would be an astounding coincidence if it were just coincidence. But it is not coincidence - there was a definite sound to it, no matter how difficult it may be to clearly define it. Many of the bands attributed to New Wave were equally considered Punk or Pop. The Cars' first three albums could be considered both Pop and New Wave, but their Heartbeat City and subsequent albums saw them move away from the New Wave sound, or at least as I defined it circa 1981 when the genre hit it's stride (so to speak). We cannot define where the the edge of one genre ends and another picks up, but perhaps we can define the quintessential center of a genre at a particular time; knowing that the center will drift is some direction from year to year. Consider; my own preferences tended to drift towards the Pop side of the New Wave spectrum while someone else's preferences may drift towards the Punk or the Techo (or synth, if you prefer) sides of New Wave. All the music could be considered part of the New Wave genre but all three of us could be listening to completely different bands. In a way, one could argue that New Wave put the three genre's together similarly to the way Fusion did with world music. And that just because I may not like the punk side of it did not make it any less New Wave.
Perhaps you are correct and I'm trying to define something that can never be clearly defined or agreed upon. As you can see, it being "merely impossible" did not stop me from trying, though. But if
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